Friday, January 17, 2025

National Bank of Canada

Sound bite for Twitter and StockTwits is: Dividend Growth Financial. Results of stock price testing is that the stock price could be on the expensive side. Debt Ratios are fine. The Dividend Payout Ratios (DPR) are good. The current dividend yield is moderate with dividend growth moderate. See my spreadsheet on National Bank of Canada.

Is it a good company at a reasonable price? When I look at analysts’ recommendation, there is one sell recommendation. The only negative comment I can find is that one analyst says that he preferred other banks to this one and names mentions were BNS and TD. This bank and delivered nice returns to their shareholders in the past. If you look at its chart it is quite close to the highest price it has reached. It might currently be on the expensive side.

I do not own this stock of National Bank of Canada (TSX-NA, OTC-NTIOF). I thought I should follow one of the smaller Canadian Banks. This seems like a good choice.

When I was updating my spreadsheet, I noticed they give an Adjusted Net Income, but not the final Adjusted Net Income. I only discovered this when I tried to calculate the Adjusted Basic Earnings per Share, which seemed off compared to the given Adjusted Diluted Earnings per Share. I find things like that annoying.

I also noticed Dividend growth is increasing and it has been over the last 15 years. Dividend growth was 8.54% per year for the last 15 years, 8.74% per year over the past 10 years and 10.28% over the past 5 years to 2024. Both the dividend yield and the dividend growth are moderate and this is where a good dividend growth stock should be.

If you had invested in this company in December 2014, for $1,038.24 you would have bought 21 shares at $49.44 per share. In December 2024, after 10 years you would have received $598.92 in dividends. The stock would be worth $2,751.84. Your total return would have been $3,350.76. This would be a total return of 13.87% per year with 10.24% from capital gain and 3.63% from dividends.

Cost Tot. Cost Shares Years Dividends Stock Val Tot Ret
$49.44 $1,038.24 21 10 $598.92 $2,751.84 $3,350.76

The current dividend yield is moderate with dividend growth moderate. The current dividend yield is moderate (2% to 4% ranges) at 3.54%. The 5, 10 and historical dividend yields are also moderate at 3.71%, 4.01% and 3.85%. The last dividend increase was in 2025 and it was for 3.64. However, this bank generally does more than 1 increase each year. The dividends for 2024 were 9.3% higher than for 2023. The dividend increases are moderate (8% to 14% ranges) and they were increased by 10.3% per year over the past 5 years.

The Dividend Payout Ratios (DPR) are good. The DPR for 2024 for Earnings per Share (EPS) is good at 40% with 5 year coverage at 39%. The DPR for 2024 for Adjusted Earnings per Share (AEPS) is good at 41% with 5 year coverage at 39%. The DPR for 2024 for Cash Flow per Share (CFPS) is good at 31% with 5 year coverage at 17%. The DPR for 2024 for Free Cash Flow MS (FCF) is good at 44% with 5 year coverage at 43%. The DPR for 2024 for Free Cash Flow WSJ (FCF) is non-calculable because of negative FCFs with 5 year coverage too high at 80%. There is a huge difference in what sites say for FCF, again. I generally tend to discount the FCF values.

Item Cur 5 Years
EPS 39.70% 38.66%
AEPS 40.81% 38.94%
CFPS 31.06% 17.01%
FCF MS 43.73% 42.56%
FCF WSJ -57.14% 80.10%

Debt Ratios are fine. The Long Term Debt/Market Cap Ratio for 2024 is high at 7.37 and currently at 7.39. However, we need also to look at the Long Term Debt/Covering Assets Ratio for 2024 which is good at 0.76 and currently at 0.76 because this is a more important one for a financial. The Liquidity Ratio for 2024 is good at 9.90 and 9.90 currently. But this is not important for a financial. The Debt Ratio for 2024 is fine at 1.06 and 1.06 currently for a bank. The bank gives a Leverage Ratio of 4.4% and this is good. The Debt/Equity Ratios for 2024 are fine at 17.09 and currently at 17.09.

Type Year End Ratio Curr
Lg Term R A 0.76 0.76
Lg Term R 7.37 7.39
Intang/GW 0.06 0.06
Liquidity 9.90 9.90
Liq. + CF 10.76 10.74
Debt Ratio 1.06 1.06
Leverage Bk 4.4% 4.4%
Leverage 18.09 18.09
D/E Ratio 17.09 17.09

The Total Return per year is shown below for years of 5 to 38 to the end of 2024. Under the Capital Gain column is the portion of the Total Return attributable to capital gains. Under the Dividend column is the portion of the Total Return attributable to dividends. See chart below.

From Years Div. Gth Tot Ret Cap Gain Div.
2019 5 10.28% 16.40% 12.70% 3.70%
2014 10 8.74% 13.87% 10.24% 3.63%
2009 15 8.54% 14.12% 10.30% 3.82%
2004 20 9.75% 12.12% 8.68% 3.43%
1999 25 10.56% 15.61% 11.19% 4.42%
1994 30 10.72% 16.39% 11.69% 4.70%
1989 35 7.39% 12.60% 9.14% 3.46%
1986 38 7.79% 10.83% 7.94% 2.90%

The 5-year low, median, and high median Price/Earnings per Share Ratios are 8.16, 9.96 and 11.64. The corresponding 10 year ratios is 8.66, 10.16 and 11.64. The corresponding historical ratios. are 8.52, 9.89 and 11.64. The current P/E Ratio is 12.38 based on a stock price of $128.79 and EPS estimate for 2025 of $10.40. The current ratio is above the high ratio of the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively expensive.

I also have Adjusted Earnings per Share (AEPS) data. The 5-year low, median, and high median Price/Adjusted Earnings per Share Ratios are 8.38, 9.81 and 11.76. The corresponding 10 year ratios is 8.55, 9.75 and 11.24. The current P/AEPS Ratio is 12.41 based on a stock price of $128.79 and AEPS estimate for 2025 of $10.38. This ratio is above the high ratio of the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively expensive.

I get a Graham Price of $123.91. The 10-year low, median, and high median Price/Graham Price Ratios are 0.72, 0.87 and 0.99. The current P/GP Ratio is 1.04 based on a stock price of $128.79. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively expensive.

I get a 10-year median Price/Book Value per Share Ratio of 1.70. The current P/B Ratio is 1.96 based on a Book Value of $22,400M, Book Value per Share of $65.74 and a stock price of $128.79. The current ratio is 15% above the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable but above the median.

I also have a Book Value per Share estimate for 2025 of $71.79. This implies a ratio of 1.79 based on a stock price of $128.79 and Book Value of $24,462M. This ratio is 5% above the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable but above the median.

I get a 10-year median Price/Cash Flow per Share Ratio of 3.09. The current P/CF Ratio is 9.43 based on Cash Flow for the last 12 months of $4,652M, Cash Flow per Share of $13.65 and a stock price of $128.79. This ratio is 205% above the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively expensive.

I get an historical median dividend yield of 3.85%. The current dividend yield is 3.54% based on a stock price of $128.79 and Dividends of $4.56. The current dividend yield is 8% below the historical median dividend yield. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable but above the median.

I get a 10 year median dividend yield of 4.01%. The current dividend yield is 3.54% based on a stock price of $128.79 and Dividends of $4.56. The current dividend yield is 12% below the historical median dividend yield. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable but above the median.

The 10-year median Price/Sales (Revenue) Ratio is 2.85. The current P/S Ratio is 3.42 based on a stock price of $128.79, Revenue estimate for 2025 of $12,814M and Revenue per Share of $37.61. The current ratio is 20.1% above the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively expensive.

Results of stock price testing is that the stock price could be on the expensive side. The dividend yield testing is saying that the stock price is reasonable but above the median. It is not confirmed by the P/S Ratio test which says that the stock price is relatively expensive. A number of my tests says that the stock price is relatively expensive.

When I look at analysts’ recommendations, I find Strong Buy (2), Buy (1), Hold (8) and Sell (1). The consensus would be a Hold. The 12 month stock price consensus is $140.50 and with high of $154.00 and low of $109.00. The 12 month consensus price of $140.50 implies a total return of 12.63% with 9.09% from capital gains and 3.54% from dividends.

There are no entries yet on Stock Chase for 2025. The ones for 2024 are either Buys or Holds. They all make positive remarks about this bank. Stock Chase gives this stock 5 stars out of 5. Christopher Liew on Motley Fool says this is a good bank to buy at present. Adam Othman on Motley Fool thinks this is a stock to buy and hold forever. The bank put out a press release via Newswire about their fourth quarter of 2024.

Simply Wall Street via Yahoo Finance and looks at their effort to buy Canadian Western Bank. Simply Wall Street gives this stock 4 stars out of 5. Simply Wall Street gives this stock 1 warnings of earnings are forecast to decline by an average of 1% per year for the next 3 years.

National Bank of Canada is the sixth-largest Canadian bank. The bank offers integrated financial services, primarily in the province of Quebec as well as the city of Toronto. Operational segments include personal and commercial banking, wealth management, and a financial markets group. Its web site is here National Bank of Canada.

The last stock I wrote about was about was Bank of Nova Scotia (TSX-BNS, NYSE-BNS) ... learn more. The next stock I will write about will be Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (TSX-CM, NYSE-CM) ... learn more on Monday, January 20, 2025 around 5 pm.

This blog is meant for educational purposes only and is not to provide investment advice. I am not a licensed professional investment advisor. Before making any investment decision, you should always do your own research or consult an investment professional. I do research for my own edification and I am willing to share. I write what I think and I may or may not be correct.

See my site for an index to these blog entries and for stocks followed. I have three blogs. The first talks only about specific stocks and is called Investment Talk. The second one contains information on mostly investing and is called Investing Economics Mostly. My last blog is for my book reviews and it is called Non-Fiction Mostly. Follow me on Twitter. I am on Instagram. Or you can just Google #walktoronto spbrunner8166 to see my pictures.

Wednesday, January 15, 2025

Bank of Nova Scotia

Sound bite for Twitter and StockTwits is: Dividend Growth Financial. Results of stock price testing is that the stock price is reasonable and below the median. Debt Ratios are fine. The Dividend Payout Ratios (DPR) need improving. The current dividend yield is good with dividend growth low. See my spreadsheet on Bank of Nova Scotia.

Is it a good company at a reasonable price? Dividend increases are low, but dividend is in the 5% ranges. There seems to be always a trade off between dividend increases and dividend yield. Analysts expect a small dividend increase this year (1.3%) after none last year. I personally like a total return of 8% per year and this bank has often not done this. The dividend yield is good, so maybe buy for passive income? The stock is testing as reasonable and below the median.

I do not own this stock of Bank of Nova Scotia (TSX-BNS, NYSE-BNS). This is one of the big banks of Canada. All our big banks are dividend growth companies. Besides, my son owns shares in this bank.

When I was updating my spreadsheet, I noticed that most of the current top executives do not own shares in this bank. They do have options. Also, this bank did not do any dividend increase in the last financial year of 2024. Their financial year runs to October each year, so I am reviewing the financial year ending October 2024. Dividend went up in this financial year because dividends were raised during the financial year ending October 2023. Analysts do expect a dividend increase this year of around 1.3%.

If you had invested in this company in December 2014, for $1,060.96 you would have bought 16 shares at $66.31 per share. In December 2024, after 10 years you would have received $561.60 in dividends. The stock would be worth $1,234.04. Your total return would have been $1,796.64. This would be a total return of 6.38% per year with 1.53% from capital gain and 4.85% from dividends.

Cost Tot. Cost Shares Years Dividends Stock Val Tot Ret
$66.31 $1,060.96 16 10 $561.60 $1,235.04 $1,796.64

The current dividend yield is good with dividend growth low. The current dividend is good (5% to 6% ranges) at 5.72%. The 5 and 10 year median dividend yields are also good at 5.84% and 5.00%. The historical median dividend yield is moderate (2% to 4% 4anges) at 4.24%. The dividend growth is low (below 8% per year) at 4% per year over the past 5 years. The last dividend increase was in 2023 and it was for 2.9%. Since it occurred halfway through the year, the actual dividends received in 2024 were 1.4% higher than in 2023.

The Dividend Payout Ratios (DPR) need improving. The DPR for 2024 for Earnings per Share (EPS) is high at 72% with 5 year coverage at 60%. The DPR for 2024 for Adjusted Earnings per Share (AEPS) is high at 68% with 5 year coverage at 58%. I prefer to see this DPR in the 40% range. The DPR for 2024 for Cash Flow per Share (CFPS) is good at 34% with 5 year coverage at 22%. The DPR for 2024 for Free Cash Flow (FCF) is good at 43% with 5 year coverage at 36%. There is no agreement on the FCF and there is a big disagreement.

Item Cur 5 Years
EPS 72.23% 60.24%
AEPS 65.53% 58.02%
CFPS 33.71% 22.07%
FCF 42.73% 35.97%

Debt Ratios are fine. The Long Term Debt/Market Cap Ratio for 2024 is 10.58 and currently at 10.30. However, we need also to look at the Long Term Debt/Covering Assets Ratio for 2024 which is good at 0.64 and currently at 0.64 because this is a more important one for a Financial. The Liquidity Ratio for 2024 is low at 1.05 and 1.05 currently. But this is not important for financials. If you added in Cash Flow after dividends, the ratios are fine at 1.22 and currently at 1.22. The Debt Ratio for 2024 is fine for a bank at 1.06 and 1.06 currently. The Leverage Ratios for 2024 are good at 4.4% and currently at 4.4%. The Debt/Equity Ratios for 2024 are ok at 15.79 and currently at 15.79.

Type Year End Ratio Curr
Lg Term R A 0.64 0.64
Lg Term R 10.58 10.30
Intang/GW 0.19 0.18
Liquidity 1.05 1.05
Liq. + CF 1.22 1.22
Debt Ratio 1.06 1.06
Leverage Bk 4.4% 4.4%
Leverage 16.79 16.79
D/E Ratio 15.79 15.79

The Total Return per year is shown below for years of 5 to 39 to the end of 2024. Under the Capital Gain column is the portion of the Total Return attributable to capital gains. Under the Dividend column is the portion of the Total Return attributable to dividends. See chart below.

From Years Div. Gth Tot Ret Cap Gain Div.
2019 5 3.97% 6.26% 1.03% 5.23%
2014 10 5.18% 6.38% 1.53% 4.85%
2009 15 5.28% 7.89% 3.05% 4.85%
2004 20 6.98% 7.82% 3.25% 4.57%
1999 25 9.54% 12.47% 6.62% 5.84%
1994 30 9.35% 15.17% 8.49% 6.68%
1989 35 8.82% 15.37% 8.78% 6.59%
1985 39 8.60% 13.90% 8.21% 5.70%

The 5-year low, median, and high median Price/Earnings per Share Ratios are 8.82, 11.10 and 12.58. The corresponding 10 year ratios. are 9.30, 10.94 and 12.51. The current P/E Ratio is 11.08 based on a stock price of $74.18 and EPS estimate for 2025 of $6.70. The current ratio is between the median and high ratios of the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable but above the median.

I also have Adjusted Earnings per Share (AEPS) data. The 5-year low, median, and high median Price/Earnings per Share Ratios are 8.47, 9.91 and 11.34. The corresponding 10 year ratios. are 8.72, 10.23 and 11.56. The current P/AEPS Ratio is 10.60 based on a stock price of $74.18 and AEPS estimate for 2025 of $7.00. The current ratio is between the median and high ratios of the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable but above the median.

I get a Graham Price of $96.51. The 10-year low, median, and high median Price/Graham Price Ratios are 0.63, 0.78 and 0.93. The current P/GP Ratio is 0.77 based on a stock price of $74.18. The current ratio is between the low and median ratios of the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

I get a 10-year median Price/Book Value per Share Ratio of 1.40. The current P/B Ratio is 1.25 based on a stock price of $74.18, Book Value of $473,590M, and Book Value per Share of $59.14. The current ratio is 10% below the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

I also have a Book Value per Share (BVPS) estimate for 2025 of $61.63. This implies a ratio of 1.20 based on a stock price of $74.18 and Book Value of $76,695M. This ratio is 14% below the 10 year median ratio of 1.40. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

I get a 10-year median Price/Cash Flow per Share Ratio of 5.05. The current P/CF Ratio is 5.90 based on a Cash Flow for the last 12 months of $15,652M, Cash Flow per Share of $12.58 and a stock price of $74.18. The current ratio is 17% above the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable but above the median.

I get an historical median dividend yield of 4.24%. The current dividend yield is 5.72% based on dividends of $4.24 and a stock price of $74.18. The current dividend yield is 35% above the historical median dividend yield. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively cheap.

I get a 10 year median dividend yield of 5.00%. The current dividend yield is 5.72% based on dividends of $4.24 and a stock price of $74.18. The current dividend yield is 14% above the historical median dividend yield. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

The 10-year median Price/Sales (Revenue) Ratio is 2.82. The current ratio is 2.58 based on Revenue estimate for 2025 of $35,807M, Revenue per Share of $28.77 and a stock price of $74.18. The current ratio is 9% below the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

Results of stock price testing is that the stock price is reasonable and below the median. The 10 year median dividend yield test says this. It is confirmed by the P/S Ratio test. Most of the rest of the testing is finding the stock price reasonable and below or above the median.

When I look at analysts’ recommendations, I find Strong Buy (6), Buy (1), and Hold (8). The consensus would be a Buy. The 12 month stock price consensus is $80.67 with a high of $90.00 and low of $71.00. The 12 month stock price consensus of $80.67 implies a total return of 14.46% with 8.75% from capital gains and 5.72% from dividends.

The two analysts’ recommendations on Stock Chase for this bank in 2025 are a buy. Last year, it was a bit of a mixed bag with most at Buys, but some Sell and Holds. Stock Chase gives this bank 5 stars out of 5. Andrew Walker on Motley Fool says to buy for the attractive dividend and wait for its recovery. Demetris Afxentiou on Motley Fool thinks this is a bank to buy and hold forever. The bank put out a press release via Newswire about their fourth quarter of 2024.

Simply Wall Street via Yahoo Finance reviews this stock and is not very keen on it. Simply Wall Street gives this stock 4 stars out of 5. They have no warnings out on this bank.

Bank of Nova Scotia is a global financial services provider. The bank has five business segments: Canadian banking, international banking, global wealth management, global banking, and markets, and other. The bank's international operations span numerous countries and are more concentrated in Central and South America. Its web site is here Bank of Nova Scotia.

The last stock I wrote about was about was Toronto Dominion Bank (TSX-TD, NYSE-TD) ... learn more. The next stock I will write about will be National Bank of Canada (TSX-NA, OTC-NTIOF) ... learn more on Friday, January 17, 2025 around 5 pm. Tomorrow on my other blog I will write about Aeon Newsletter.... learn more on Thursday, January 16, 2025 around 5 pm.

This blog is meant for educational purposes only and is not to provide investment advice. I am not a licensed professional investment advisor. Before making any investment decision, you should always do your own research or consult an investment professional. I do research for my own edification and I am willing to share. I write what I think and I may or may not be correct.

See my site for an index to these blog entries and for stocks followed. I have three blogs. The first talks only about specific stocks and is called Investment Talk. The second one contains information on mostly investing and is called Investing Economics Mostly. My last blog is for my book reviews and it is called Non-Fiction Mostly. Follow me on Twitter. I am on Instagram. Or you can just Google #walktoronto spbrunner8166 to see my pictures.

Monday, January 13, 2025

Toronto Dominion Bank

Sound bite for Twitter and StockTwits is: Dividend Growth Financial. Results of stock price testing is that the stock price is probably reasonable but could be cheap. Debt Ratios are fine. The Dividend Payout Ratios (DPR) need improving. The current dividend yield is good with dividend growth low. See my spreadsheet on Toronto Dominion Bank.

Is it a good company at a reasonable price? If you were in the market to buy your first bank stock, you might want to look elsewhere because this bank does have problems to solve. I have a number of bank stocks of RY, TD and BMO. Personally, I will be keeping my shares in TD bank at this time. The stock is testing, generally, as reasonable and this surprises me. TD bank has fallen some 25% since a high in Feb 2022. It is only the dividend yield tests that are saying the stock price is cheap.

I own this stock of Toronto Dominion Bank (TSX-TD, NYSE-TD). This is the third bank I have bought. I have made 3 purchases and 2 sales. I sell when a stock is more than 10% of my portfolio and this is why I have sold some of this stock in the past.

I have done well with this stock. I have it in the RIF and LIF accounts. I have made 12.2% per year with 7.48% from capital gains and 4.72% from dividends. I have had this stock for almost 25 years.

When I was updating my spreadsheet, I noticed, and anyone cannot help but notice the current problems of this bank. See a recent review at Insurance News. There is also a review in the Financial Post.

The current dividend yield is good with dividend growth low. The current dividend yield is good (5% to 6% ranges) at 5.36%. The 5, 10 and historical median dividend yields are moderate (2% to 4% ranges) at 4.53%, 3.98% and 3.55%. The dividend increases for the past 5 years is low (less than 8% per year) at 7.14% per year. The last dividend increase was 6.25% and it occurred at the end of 2024. I would expect dividend increases in the future to be low or stopped.

The Dividend Payout Ratios (DPR) need improving. The DPR for 2024 for Earnings per Share (EPS) is too high at 86% with 5 year coverage at 52%. The DPR for 2024 for Adjusted Earnings per Share (AEPS) is too high at 52% with 5 year coverage at good at 48%. The DPR for 2024 for Cash Flow per Share (CFPS) is too high at 78% with 5 year coverage at 49%. The DPR for 2024 for Free Cash Flow (FCF) is too high at 68% with 5 year coverage good at 43%.

Item Cur 5 Years
EPS 86.44% 52.30%
AEPS 52.24% 48.17%
CFPS 78.43% 48.78%
FCF 68.06% 42.66%

We need to look at the Long Term Debt/Covering Assets Ratio for 2024 which is good at 0.85 and currently at 0.85 because this is a more important one for a financial than the Long Term Debt/Market Cap Ratio. The Liquidity Ratio for 2024 is good at 1.55 and 1.50 currently. If you added in Cash Flow after dividends, the ratios are fine at 1.53 and currently at 1.76. The Debt Ratio for 2024 is good at 1.68 and 1.68 currently. The Leverage and Debt/Equity Ratios for 2024 are good at 1.47 and 0.47 and currently at 1.46 and 0.46.

Type Year End Ratio Curr
Lg Term R A 0.85 0.85
Lg Term R 9.42 9.32
Intang/GW 0.16 0.16
Liquidity 4.04 4.04
Liq. + CF 4.98 4.98
Debt Ratio 1.06 1.06
Leverage Bk 4.2% 4.2%
Leverage 17.90 17.90
D/E Ratio 16.90 16.90

The Total Return per year is shown below for years of 5 to 49 to the end of 2024. Under the Capital Gain column is the portion of the Total Return attributable to capital gains. Under the Dividend column is the portion of the Total Return attributable to dividends. See chart below.

From Years Div. Gth Tot Ret Cap Gain Div.
2019 5 7.14% 5.74% 1.00% 4.74%
2014 10 8.29% 7.75% 3.26% 4.49%
2009 15 8.38% 10.43% 5.77% 4.66%
2004 20 9.37% 10.08% 5.76% 4.32%
1999 25 10.20% 9.47% 5.65% 3.82%
1994 30 10.76% 14.93% 9.30% 5.63%
1989 35 9.37% 12.34% 8.03% 4.31%
1984 40 9.85% 14.22% 9.16% 5.06%
1979 45 10.29% 16.35% 10.09% 6.25%
1975 49 10.61% 15.12% 9.75% 5.37%

The 5-year low, median, and high median Price/Earnings per Share Ratios are 8.25, 9.82 and 11.82. The corresponding 10 year ratios are 10.68, 11.93 and 13.15. The corresponding historical ratios are 10.50, 11.93 and 13.15. The current ratio is 11.21 based on a stock price of $78.36 and EPS estimate for 2025 of $6.99. The current ratio is between the low and median ratios of the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

I also have Adjusted Earnings per Share (AEPS) data. The 5-year low, median, and high median Price/Adjusted Earnings per Share Ratios are 9.35, 10.62 and 11.71. The corresponding 10 year ratios are 9.67, 11.20 and 12.41. The current ratio is 9.99 based on a stock price of $78.36 and AEPS estimate for 2025 of $7.84. The current ratio is between the low and median ratios of the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

I get a Graham Price of $102.51. The 10-year low, median, and high median Price/Graham Price Ratios are 0.76, 0.87 and 0.97. The current ratio is 0.76 based on a stock price of $78.36. The current ratio is at the low ratio of the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median and very close to cheap.

I get a 10-year median Price/Book Value per Share Ratio of 1.54. The current P/B Ratio is 1.32 based on a stock price of $78.36, Book Value of $104,272M and Book Value per Share of $59.57. The current ratio is 14% below the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

I also have a Book Value per Share estimate for 2025 of $62.01. This implies a ratio of 1.26 based on a stock price of $78.36 and a Book Value of $108,536M. The current ratio is 18% below the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

I get a 10-year median Price/Cash Flow per Share Ratio of 2.76. The current P/CF Ratio is 2.45 based on a stock price of $78.36, Cash Flow for the last 12 months of $54,937M, and Cash Flow per Share of $31.39. The current ratio is 11% below the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

I get an historical median dividend yield of 3.55%. The current dividend yield is 5.36% based on dividends of $4.20 and a stock price of $78.36. The current ratio is 51% above the historical median dividend yield. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively cheap.

I get a 10 year median dividend yield of 3.98%. The current dividend yield is 5.36% based on dividends of $4.20 and a stock price of $78.36. The current ratio is 35% above the 10 year median dividend yield. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively cheap.

The 10-year median Price/Sales (Revenue) Ratio is 3.16. The current P/S Ratio is 25.61 based on a stock price of $78.36, Revenue estimate for 2025 of $52,608M and Revenue per Share of $30.06. The current ratio is 17% below the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

Results of stock price testing is that the stock price is probably reasonable but could be cheap. The dividend yields tests are showing that the stock price is cheap. This is not surprising. The P/S Ratio test is showing the stock price as reasonable. Most of the testing is showing the stock price as reasonable and this is surprising. I would have thought they would all show the stock price as cheap.

When I look at analysts’ recommendations, I find Strong Buy (5), Buy (3), Hold (7) and Underperform (1). The current consensus would be a Buy. The 12 month stock price consensus is $84.36 with a high of $94.00 and a low of $77.00.

Analysts in 2025 onStock Chase like this stock, but say do not expect a quick recovery, but buy for the long term. In 2024, analysts’ comments were a mixed bag with variations on Do Not Buy to Hold to Buy. Stock Chase gives this stock 5 stars out of 5. Aditya Raghunath on Motley Fool reviews this stock, but he expects recovery to be in 2027. Andrew Button on Motley Fool says that TD is trading cheaper than its US peers. The bank put out a press release on Newswire about their fourth quarter of 2024. Insider Monkey via Yahoo Finance says TD ranks six on their best Canadian stocks for income investors.

Simply Wall Street via Yahoo Finance talks about TD’s dividends. Simply Wall Street has no warnings out on this bank. Simply Wall Street gives this bank 4 stars out of 5.

Toronto-Dominion is one of Canada's two largest banks and operates three business segments: Canadian retail banking, US retail banking, and wholesale banking. The bank's US operations span from Maine to Florida, with a strong presence in the Northeast. It also has a 13% ownership stake in Charles Schwab. Its web site is here Toronto Dominion Bank.

The last stock I wrote about was about was Calian Group Ltd (TSX-CGY, OTC-CLNFF) ... learn more. The next stock I will write about will be Bank of Nova Scotia (TSX-BNS, NYSE-BNS) ... learn more on Wednesday, January 15, 2025 around 5 pm. Tomorrow on my other blog I will write about Marc Andreessen interview .... learn more on Tuesday, January 14, 2025 around 5 pm.

This blog is meant for educational purposes only and is not to provide investment advice. I am not a licensed professional investment advisor. Before making any investment decision, you should always do your own research or consult an investment professional. I do research for my own edification and I am willing to share. I write what I think and I may or may not be correct.

See my site for an index to these blog entries and for stocks followed. I have three blogs. The first talks only about specific stocks and is called Investment Talk. The second one contains information on mostly investing and is called Investing Economics Mostly. My last blog is for my book reviews and it is called Non-Fiction Mostly. Follow me on Twitter. I am on Instagram. Or you can just Google #walktoronto spbrunner8166 to see my pictures

Friday, January 10, 2025

Calian Group Ltd

Sound bite for Twitter and StockTwits is: Dividend Paying Tech. Results of stock price testing is that the stock price is probably reasonable, and getting towards the cheap end. Debt Ratios are fine. The Dividend Payout Ratios (DPR) are good. The current dividend yield is moderate with dividend growth non-existent. Debt Ratios are fine. See my spreadsheet on Calian Group Ltd.

Is it a good company at a reasonable price? I had bought this stock as a small cap tech called Calian Tech first in 2011. I was looking for another stock and wanted one with low debt and dividend paying. They changed their name in 2016. They were a Dividend Growth Stock then, but are no longer. I have done well in this stock, so I am going to hold on to my shares, but I will not buy anymore because it is no longer a dividend growth company. The stock price is reasonable and according to some testing it is relatively cheap.

I own this stock of Calian Group Ltd (TSX-CGY, OTC-CLNFF). In 2011 I found Calian to be an interesting company with a very nice dividend. This stock came up on a Globe Investor site. The Globe Investor Number Cruncher is an investment column about screening for stocks and funds. They did one on companies with little to no debt. I also noted that the Financial Blogger has this stock on his Top Ten Canadian Dividend Stocks list.

When I was updating my spreadsheet, I noticed I have done well with this stock with a total return to the end of 2024 of 12.11% with 7.91% from capital gains and 4.20% from dividends. I am disappointed that dividends stopped increasing in 2013, 11 years ago. When I first started following this stock, it was in the Tech Sector. I noticed lately, it is considered to by in the Services sector of the Industrials. I have changed its sector listing accordingly.

The other thing to mention is that the company talks a lot about increasing their Revenue, which has increased by 17% and 13% per year over the past 5 and 10 years. However, the Revenue per Share has only increased by 8% and 8% per year over the past 5 and 10 years. This is because outstanding shares have been increased by 9% and 5% per year over the past 5 and 10 years.

You can see from the chart below their growth for the last 5 and 10 years and expected in the next year. In the chart below, I am showing 5 and 10 year total growth and per year growth in columns 3 and 4. Column 5 shows growth expected over 12 months to the first quarter in 2025 and expected growth over this year.

Yr Item Tot. Gwth Per Year Gwth Coverage
5 Revenue Growth 117.64% 16.83% 0.48% <-12 mths
5 Rev Growth per Sh 46.22% 7.90%
5 AEPS Growth 79.67% 12.43% -2.54% <-12 mths
5 Net Income Growth -44.08% -10.97% -34.33% <-12 mths
5 Cash Flow Growth 666.24% 50.27% -100.00% <-12 mths
5 Dividend Growth 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% <-12 mths
5 Stock Price Growth 30.75% 5.51% 6.10% <-12 mths
10 Revenue Growth 253.41% 13.46% 10.00% <-this year
10 Reve Growth per Sh 120.21% 8.21%
10 AEPS Growth 198.62% 11.56% 15.70% <-this year
10 Net Income Growth 5.66% 0.55% 137.39% <-this year
10 Cash Flow Growth 662.55% 22.53% -40.38% <-this year
10 Dividend Growth 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% <-this year
10 Stock Price Growth 146.22% 9.43% 54.31% <-this year

If you had invested in this company in December 2014, for $1,006.05 you would have bought 57 shares at $17.65 per share. In December 2024, after 10 years you would have received $638.40 in dividends. The stock would be worth $2,755.95. Your total return would have been $3,394.35. This would be a total return of 14.94% per year with 10.60% from capital gain and 4.34% from dividends.

Cost Tot. Cost Shares Years Dividends Stock Val Tot Ret
$17.65 $1,006.05 57 10 $638.40 $2,755.95 $3,394.35

The current dividend yield is moderate with dividend growth non-existent. The current dividend yield is moderate (2% to 4% ranges) at 2.30%. The 5 year median dividend yield is low (below 2%) at 1.81%. The 10 year and historical median dividend yields are moderate at 2.79% and 3.57%.

Calian Group on Dividends, says that Calian intends to continue to declare a quarterly dividend in line with its overall financial performance and cash flow generation. Decisions on dividend payments are made on a quarterly basis by the Board of Directors. There can be no assurance as to the amount of such dividends in the future. They are also done some share buy backs. Share buybacks was used in 2024 to reduce the number of shares outstanding.

The Dividend Payout Ratios (DPR) are good. The DPR for 2024 for Earnings per Share (EPS) is too high at 120% with 5 year coverage at 80%. The DPR for 2024 for Adjusted Earnings per Share (AEPS) is good at 26% with 5 year coverage at 32%. The would be more important than the one for EPS. The DPR for 2024 for Cash Flow per Share (CFPS) is good at 15% with 5 year coverage at 20%. The DPR for 2024 for Free Cash Flow (FCF) is good at 23% with 5 year coverage at 29%. Sites do not agree on FCF, but they are relatively close.

Item Cur 5 Years
EPS 120.43% 79.66%
AEPS 25.87% 32.50%
CFPS 15.01% 20.17%
FCF 22.92% 28.68%

Debt Ratios are fine. The Long Term Debt/Market Cap Ratio for 2024 is good at 0.17 and currently at 0.16. The Liquidity Ratio for 2024 is low at 1.29 and 1.29 currently. If you added in Cash Flow after dividends, the ratios are fine at 1.64 and currently at 1.47. The Debt Ratio for 2024 is good at 1.86 and 1.86 currently. The Leverage and Debt/Equity Ratios for 2024 are fine at 2.17 and 1.17 and currently at 2.17 and 1.17.

Type Year End Ratio Curr
Lg Term R 0.17 0.16
Intang/GW 0.62 0.37
Liquidity 1.29 1.29
Liq. + CF 1.64 1.47
Debt Ratio 1.86 1.86
Leverage 2.17 2.17
D/E Ratio 1.17 1.17

The Total Return per year is shown below for years of 5 to 31 to the end of 2024. Under the Capital Gain column is the portion of the Total Return attributable to capital gains. Under the Dividend column is the portion of the Total Return attributable to dividends. See chart below.

From Years Div. Gth Tot Ret Cap Gain Div.
2019 5 0.00% 7.33% 4.66% 2.67%
2014 10 0.00% 14.94% 10.60% 4.34%
2009 15 3.80% 11.35% 7.07% 4.28%
2004 20 8.48% 9.99% 6.03% 3.96%
1999 25 9.39% 14.33% 9.51% 4.82%
1994 30 12.20% 8.80% 3.40%
1993 31 9.02% 6.49% 2.53%

The 5-year low, median, and high median Price/Earnings per Share Ratios are 44.89, 52.52 and 60.15. The corresponding 10 year ratios are 22.17, 22.96 and 23.75. The corresponding historical ratios are 10.45, 11.57 and 14.20. The current P/E Ratio is 19.49 based on a stock price of $48.72 and EPS estimate for 2025 of $2.50. The current ratio is below the low ratio for the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively cheap.

I also have Adjusted Earnings per Share (AEPS) data. The 5-year low, median, and high median Price/Adjusted Earnings per Share Ratios are 15.35, 17.57 and 19.42. The corresponding 10 year ratios are 12.36, 13.64 and 15.12. The current P/AEPS Ratio is 9.72 based on a stock price of $48.72 and AEPS estimate for 2025 of $5.01. The current ratio is below the low ratio of the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively cheap.

I get a Graham Price of $55.86. The 10-year low, median, and high median Price/Graham Price Ratios are 1.07, 1.20 and 1.32. The current P/GP Ratio is 0.87 based on a stock price of $48.72. The current ratio is below the low ratio of the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively cheap.

I get a 10-year median Price/Book Value per Share Ratio of 2.21. The current ratio is 1.76 based on a stock price of $48.72, Book Value of $326.8M, and Book Value per Share of 27.69. The current ratio is 20.4% below the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively cheap.

I get a 10-year median Price/Cash Flow per Share Ratio of 11.09. The current ratio is 11.06 based on Cash Flow estimate for 2025 of $52M, Cash Flow per Share of $4.41 and a stock price of $48.72. The current ratio is 0.3% below the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

I get an historical median dividend yield of 3.57%. The current dividend yield is 2.3% based on a stock price of $48.72 and dividends of $1.12. The current dividend yield is 36% below the historical median dividend yield. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively expensive. The problem is that this test does not work well with flat dividends.

I get a 10 year median dividend yield of 2.79%. The current dividend yield is 2.3% based on a stock price of $48.72 and dividends of $1.12. The current dividend yield is 18% below the historical median dividend yield. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable but above the median. The problem is that this test does not work well with flat dividends.

The 10-year median Price/Sales (Revenue) Ratio is 0.83. The current P/S Ratio is 0.70 based on Revenue estimate for 2025 of $821.3M, Revenue per Share of $69.59 and a stock price of $48.72. The current ratio is 16% below the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

Results of stock price testing is that the stock price is probably reasonable, and getting towards the cheap end. I am basing this on the P/S Ratio test which says that the stock price is reasonable and below the median. A number of tests also say that the stock price is relatively cheap. The problem with the dividend yield test is that this is really a test for dividend growth stocks and this is not one of them.

When I look at analysts’ recommendations, I find Strong Buy (4), Buy (3). The consensus would be a Strong Buy. The 12 month stock price consensus is $70.86 with a high of $82.00 and low of $63.00. The stock price of $70.86 implies a total return of $47.74 with 45.44% from capital gains and $2.30% from dividends.

Stock Chase. Stock Chase gives this stock 4 stars out of 5. Last year one analyst thought it was a partial buy. Robin Brown on Motley Fool says this company is an undervalued Canadian conglomerate. Amy Legate-Wolfe on Motley Fool thinks this has exciting growth potential. The company put out a press release via Global Newswire about its fourth quarter of 2024 results.

Simply Wall Street via Yahoo Finance reviews this stock. Simply Wall Street put out 3 warnings of large one-off items impacting financial results; profit margins (1.5%) are lower than last year (2.9%); and dividend of 2.3% is not well covered by earnings. Simply Wall Street gives this stock 3 and one half stars out of 5.

Calian Group Ltd provides services and solutions to both industry and government customers in the areas of health, learning, defense, security, aerospace, engineering, AgTech, satellite communications (satcom), and IT. Geographically, the company generates the majority of its revenue from its operations in Canada and also has presence in United States, Europe, and other regions. Its web site is here Calian Group Ltd.

The last stock I wrote about was about was Rogers Sugar Inc (TSX-RSI, OTC-RSGUF) ... learn more. The next stock I will write about will be Toronto Dominion Bank (TSX-TD, NYSE-TD) ... learn more on Monday, January 13, 2025 around 5 pm.

This blog is meant for educational purposes only and is not to provide investment advice. I am not a licensed professional investment advisor. Before making any investment decision, you should always do your own research or consult an investment professional. I do research for my own edification and I am willing to share. I write what I think and I may or may not be correct.

See my site for an index to these blog entries and for stocks followed. I have three blogs. The first talks only about specific stocks and is called Investment Talk. The second one contains information on mostly investing and is called Investing Economics Mostly. My last blog is for my book reviews and it is called Non-Fiction Mostly. Follow me on Twitter. I am on Instagram. Or you can just Google #walktoronto spbrunner8166 to see my pictures.

Wednesday, January 8, 2025

Rogers Sugar Inc

Sound bite for Twitter and StockTwits is: Dividend Paying Consumer. Results of stock price testing is that the stock price is probably reasonable. Debt Ratios are mostly fine, but the Liquidity Ratio, an important one needs improving. The Dividend Payout Ratios (DPR) are too high. The current dividend yield is good with dividend growth non-existent. See my spreadsheet on Rogers Sugar Inc.

Is it a good company at a reasonable price? I generally like dividend growth stocks, but for it takes at least 10 years for the benefit of compounding on these stocks to work. I can see the attraction for retired people who want a high return to use such passive income stocks as this one. The yields in the 5% to 6% ranges can be attractive and most analysts think that the dividend is safe. Most of the return on this stock is in dividends. The stock price does look reasonable at this time.

I do not own this stock of Rogers Sugar Inc (TSX-RSI, OTC-RSGUF). This stock was brought to my attention by Dividend Ninja. This company used to be an Income Trust (TSX-RSI.UN) but it has been converted to a corporation. On its change to a corporation, it lowered its dividend.

When I was updating my spreadsheet, I noticed this company issued new shares in 2024. They seemed to use the money to pay off their debt and make additions to Property, Plant and Equipment.

If you had invested in this company in December 2014, for $1,002.25 you would have bought 211 shares at $4.75 per share. In December 2024, after 10 years you would have received $759.60 in dividends. The stock would be worth $1,237.57. Your total return would have been $1,998.17. This would be a total return of 9.12% per year with 2.14% from capital gain and 6.98% from dividends.

Cost Tot. Cost Shares Years Dividends Stock Val Tot Ret
$4.75 $1,002.25 211 10 $759.60 $1,238.57 $1,998.17

The current dividend yield is good with dividend growth non-existent. The dividend yield is good (5% to 6% ranges) at 6.13%. The 5 and 10 year median dividend yields are good at 6.59% and 6.45%. The historical median dividend yield is high (7% or higher) at 7.91%. There has not been a dividend increase in over 10 years.

The Dividend Payout Ratios (DPR) are too high. The DPR for 2024 for Earnings per Share (EPS) is too high at 88% with 5 year coverage at 122%. The DPR for 2024 for Adjusted Earnings per Share (AEPS) is to high at 64% with 5 year coverage at 96%. The DPR for 2024 for Cash Flow per Share (CFPS) is good at 38% with 5 year coverage at 36%. The DPR for 2024 for Free Cash Flow (FCF) is too high at 1323% with 5 year coverage at 189%. Here again, not every site agrees on what the FCF is.

Item Cur 5 Years
EPS 87.80% 122.45%
AEPS 64.29% 95.78%
CFPS 37.84% 35.85%
FCF 1323.51% 188.55%

Debt Ratios are mostly fine, but the Liquidity Ratio, an important one needs improving. The Long Term Debt/Market Cap Ratio for 2024 is good at 0.27 and currently at 0.26. The Liquidity Ratio for 2024 is too low at 1.23 and 1.23 currently. If you added in Cash Flow after dividends, the ratios are still too low at 1.32 and currently at 1.33. I prefer this ratio to be at 1.50 or higher. The Debt Ratio for 2024 is good at 1.64 and 1.64 currently. The Leverage and Debt/Equity Ratios for 2024 are fine at 2.55 and 1.57 and currently at 2.55 and 1.57.

Type Year End Ratio Curr
Lg Term R 0.27 0.26
Intang/GW 0.34 0.33
Liquidity 1.23 1.23
Liq. + CF 1.32 1.33
Debt Ratio 1.64 1.64
Leverage 2.55 2.55
D/E Ratio 1.57 1.57

The Total Return per year is shown below for years of 5 to 27 to the end of 2024. Under the Capital Gain column is the portion of the Total Return attributable to capital gains. Under the Dividend column is the portion of the Total Return attributable to dividends. See chart below.

From Years Div. Gth Tot Ret Cap Gain Div.
2019 5 0.00% 10.45% 3.59% 6.86%
2014 10 0.00% 9.12% 2.14% 6.98%
2009 15 -1.62% 8.87% 1.25% 7.62%
2004 20 -1.50% 9.67% 1.34% 8.34%
1999 25 -3.66% 9.20% 0.49% 8.72%
1997 27 7.12% -0.65% 7.77%

The 5-year low, median, and high median Price/Earnings per Share Ratios are 11.38, 12.27 and 13.33. The corresponding 10 year ratios are 11.78, 12.58 and 13.47. The corresponding historical ratios are 10.69, 11.87 and 13.05. The current P/E Ratio is 10.48 based on a stock price of $5.87 and EPS estimate for 2025 of $0.56. The current ratio is below the low ratio of the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively cheap.

I also have Adjusted Earnings per Share (AEPS) data. The 5-year low, median, and high median Price/Adjusted Earnings per Share Ratios are 13.33, 14.25 and 16.46. The corresponding 10 year ratios are 12.78, 14.13 and 15.81. The current P/AEPS Ratio is 10.30 based on a stock price of $5.87 and AEPS estimate for 2025 of $0.57. The current ratio is below the low ratio of the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively cheap.

I get a Graham Price of $6.41. The 10-year low, median, and high median Price/Graham Price Ratios are 1.03, 1.14 and 1.26. The current P/GP Ratio is 0.91 based on a stock price of $5.87. The current ratio is below the low ratio of the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively cheap.

I get a 10-year median Price/Book Value per Share Ratio of 1.87. The current P/B Ratio is 1.80 based on a stock price of $5.87, Book Value of $417M and Book Value per Share of $3.26. The current ratio is 4% below the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

I get a 10-year median Price/Cash Flow per Share Ratio of 9.73. The current ratio is 9.00 based Cash Flow estimate for 2025 of $8.34M, Cash Flow per Share of $0.65 and a stock price of $5.87. The current ratio is 7% below the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

I get an historical median dividend yield of 7.91%. The current dividend yield is 6.13% based on Dividends of $0.36 and a stock price of $5.87. The current dividend yield is 22% above the historical median dividend yield. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively cheap.

I get a 10 year median dividend yield of 6.45%. The current dividend yield is 6.13% based on Dividends of $0.36 and a stock price of $5.87. The current dividend yield is 5% above the 10 year median dividend yield. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

The 10-year median Price/Sales (Revenue) Ratio is 0.69. The current P/S Ratio is 0.60 based on Revenue estimate for 2025 of $1,247M, Revenue per Share of $9.75 and a stock price of $5.87. The current ratio is 12% below the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable and below the median.

Results of stock price testing is that the stock price is probably reasonable. The 10 year dividend yield testing says that the stock price is reasonable and below the median. Although this test works best on dividend growth stocks and this has never been a dividend growth stock, it still seems like a reasonable test. The P/S Ratio test also says that the stock price is reasonable and below the median. A number of the other tests are showing the stock price as relatively cheap.

When I look at analysts’ recommendations, I find Strong Buy (1), Buy (1) and Hold (3). The consensus would be a Buy. The 12 month stock price is $6.75 with a high of $7.25 and low of $6.25. The 12 months stock price consensus of $6.75 implies a total return of 21.12% with 14.99% from capital gains and 6.13% from dividends.

Stock Chase. Stock Chase gives this stock 3 stars out of 5. It is not well followed but a November 2024 gives the stock a Hold rating, but does not say why. Christopher Liew on Motley Fool says to buy this consumer defensive stock. Adam Othman on Motley Fool says to buy this stock for its attractive dividend . The company put out a press release via Newswire about their fourth quarter of 2024 results.

Simply Wall Street via Yahoo Finance does a positive review of this stock. Simply Wall Street gives this stock 3 and one half stars out of 5. Simply Wall Street has 4 warnings out on this stock of shareholders have been diluted in the past year; has a high level of debt; dividend of 6.13% is not well covered by free cash flows; and significant insider selling over the past 3 months.

Rogers Sugar Inc is a Canada-based sugar-producing company. Along with its subsidiaries, it offers products like Brown sugar, Yellow sugar, Icing sugar, and other related sugar products. Geographically, the company derives a majority of its revenue from its customers in Canada and the rest from the United States, Europe, and other regions. Its web site is here Rogers Sugar Inc.

The last stock I wrote about was about was Royal Bank of Canada (TSX-RY, NYSE-RY) ... learn more. The next stock I will write about will be Calian Group Ltd (TSX-CGY, OTC-CLNFF) ... learn more on Friday, January 10, 2025 around 5 pm. Tomorrow on my other blog I will write about Something to Buy January 2025.... learn more on Thursday, January 9, 2025 around 5 pm.

This blog is meant for educational purposes only and is not to provide investment advice. I am not a licensed professional investment advisor. Before making any investment decision, you should always do your own research or consult an investment professional. I do research for my own edification and I am willing to share. I write what I think and I may or may not be correct.

See my site for an index to these blog entries and for stocks followed. I have three blogs. The first talks only about specific stocks and is called Investment Talk. The second one contains information on mostly investing and is called Investing Economics Mostly. My last blog is for my book reviews and it is called Non-Fiction Mostly. Follow me on Twitter. I am on Instagram. Or you can just Google #walktoronto spbrunner8166 to see my pictures.

Monday, January 6, 2025

Royal Bank of Canada

Sound bite for Twitter and StockTwits is: Dividend Growth Financial. Results of stock price testing is that the stock price is probably on the expensive side. Debt Ratios are good. The Dividend Payout Ratios (DPR) are good. The current dividend yield is moderate with dividend growth low. See my spreadsheet on Royal Bank of Canada.

Is it a good company at a reasonable price? This is a good dividend growth stock. I will continue to hold my shares in this bank, but I have no intentions of buying any more share, but then I have no intentions of buying shares in anything at present. I would be cautious about buying shares in this bank at present. The stock price is at a all time high and a lot of my testing is saying it is expensive.

I own this stock of Royal Bank of Canada (TSX-RY, NYSE-RY). In 1995 I bought this stock and this is the second bank stock that I have bought. This bank has been paying dividends since 1870 although the dividends have not increased every year, they certainly have increased over time. According to my records, the dividends have increased in 32 years out of the last 41 years. The last time dividends did not increase was the two years following 2008.

When I was updating my spreadsheet, I noticed I have done well on this stock. I bought the stock in 1995 and to the end of November 2024 I have a total return of 17.13% per year with 11.58% from capital gains and 5.55% from dividends.

If you had invested in this company in December 2014, for $1,043.12 you would have bought 13 shares at $80.24 per share. In December 2024, after 10 years you would have received $539.24 in dividends. The stock would be worth $1,742.00. Your total return would have been $2,281.24. This would be a total return of 9.27% per year with 5.26% from capital gain and 4.01% from dividends.

Cost Tot. Cost Shares Years Dividends Stock Val Tot Ret
$80.24 $1,043.12 13 10 $539.24 $1,742.00 $2,281.24

If you had invested in this company in December 1994, for $1,005.94 you would have bought 146 shares at $6.89 per share. In December 2024, after 30 years you would have received $9,800.25 in dividends. The stock would be worth $19,564.00. Your total return would have been $29,364.25. This would be a total return of 15.97% per year with 10.40% from capital gain and 4.93% from dividends. This calculation takes into consideration stock splits, which means that the original cost would be lowered by these splits.

Cost Tot. Cost Shares Years Dividends Stock Val Tot Ret
$6.89 $1,005.94 146 30 $9,800.25 $19,564.00 $29,364.25

The current dividend yield is moderate with dividend growth low. The current dividend yield is moderate (2% to 4% ranges) at 3.40%. The 5, 10 and historical median dividend yields are also moderate at 3.87%, 3.91% and 3.93%. The dividend growth is low (below 8% per year) at 6.7% per year for the past 5 years. The last dividend increase was is for 2025 and it is for 4.23%. However, this bank tends to raise the dividends twice each year.

The Dividend Payout Ratios (DPR) are good. The DPR for 2024 for Earnings per Share (EPS) is good at 49% with 5 year coverage at 47%. The DPR for 2024 for Adjusted Earnings per Share (AEPS) is good at 46% with 5 year coverage at 45%. The DPR for 2024 for Cash Flow per Share (CFPS) is good at 44% with 5 year coverage at 39%. The DPR for 2024 for Free Cash Flow (FCF) is good at 36% with 5 year coverage at 46%. (Although there is no agreement on what the FCF is and not all sites provide one for this stock.)

Item Cur 5 Years
EPS 49.16% 46.70%
AEPS 45.74% 45.35%
CFPS 44.12% 39.60%
FCF 35.84% 45.68%

Debt Ratios are good. The Long Term Debt/Market Cap Ratio for 2024 is high at 5.80 and currently at 5.71. However, we need also to look at the Long Term Debt/Covering Assets Ratio for 2024 which is good at 0.74 and currently at 0.74 because this is a more important one for a Financial. The Liquidity Ratio for 2024 is good at 3.30 and 3.30 currently. The Debt Ratio for 2024 is good for a bank at 1.06 and 1.06 currently. The bank says that their leverage ratio is 4.2% and 4.2% currently.

Type Year End Ratio Curr
Lg Term R A 0.74 0.74
Lg Term R 5.80 5.71
Intang/GW 0.11 0.11
Liquidity 3.30 3.30
Liq. + CF 3.71 3.70
Debt Ratio 1.06 1.06
Leverage Bk 4.2% 4.2%
Leverage 17.07 17.07
D/E Ratio 16.07 16.07

The Total Return per year is shown below for years of 5 to 41 to the end of 2024. Under the Capital Gain column is the portion of the Total Return attributable to capital gains. Under the Dividend column is the portion of the Total Return attributable to dividends. See chart below.

From Years Div. Gth Tot Ret Cap Gain Div.
2019 5 6.69% 14.83% 11.02% 3.80%
2014 10 7.20% 11.60% 8.01% 3.60%
2009 15 7.02% 11.31% 7.77% 3.54%
2004 20 8.87% 12.92% 8.90% 4.02%
1999 25 10.36% 14.57% 10.12% 4.45%
1994 30 10.33% 16.41% 11.35% 5.06%
1989 35 8.95% 13.86% 9.90% 3.97%
1984 40 8.05% 14.34% 9.98% 4.37%
1983 41 7.84% 13.37% 9.43% 3.93%

The 5-year low, median, and high median Price/Earnings per Share Ratios are 9.89, 11.81 and 13.49. The corresponding 10 year ratios are 10.32, 11.71 and 13.11. The corresponding historical ratios are 10.17, 11.95 and 13.50. The current P/E Ratio is 14.33 based on a stock price of $174.72 and EPS estimate for 2025 of $12.19. This ratio is above the high ratio of the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively expensive.

I also have Adjusted Earnings per Share (AEPS) data. The 5-year low, median, and high median Price/Adjusted Earnings per Share Ratios are 9.20, 11.39 and 13.33. The corresponding 10 year ratios are 10.01, 11.60 and 12.77. The current P/AEPS Ratio is 13.48 based on a stock price of $174.72 and AEPS for 2025 of $12.96. The current ratio is above the high ratio for the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively expensive.

I get a Graham Price of $158.16. The 10-year low, median, and high median Price/Graham Price Ratios are 0.83, 0.96 and 1.08. The current P/GP Ratio is 1.10 based on a stock price of $174.72. The current ratio is above the high ratio of the 10 year median ratios. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively expensive.

I get a 10-year median Price/Book Value per Share Ratio of 1.79. The current ratio is 2.07 based on a stock price of $174.72, Book Value of $121,384M and a Book Value per Share of $85.78. The current ratio is 14% above the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable but above the median.

I also have a Book Value per Share of $87.47. The analyst’s calculation of Book Value is different from mine and in this case the 10 year median ratio is 1.66. The Book Value per Share of $89.47 implies a ratio of 1.95 and a Book Value of $126,607M with a stock price of $174.72. This ratio is 17% above the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable but above the median.

I get a 10-year median Price/Cash Flow per Share Ratio of 5.64. The current P/CF Ratio is 10.69 based on Cash Flow for the last 6 months of $23,139M, Cash Flow per Share of $16.35 and a stock price of $174.72. This ratio is 90% above the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively expensive.

I get an historical median dividend yield of 3.93%. The current dividend yield is 3.39% based on dividends of $5.92 and a stock price of $174.72. The current dividend yield is 14% below the historical median dividend yield. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable but above the median.

I get a 10 year median dividend yield of 3.91%. The current dividend yield is 3.39% based on dividends of $5.92 and a stock price of $174.72. The current dividend yield is 13% below the 10 median dividend yield. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively reasonable but above the median.

The 10-year median Price/Sales (Revenue) Ratio is P/S Ratio is 3.19. The current P/S Ratio is 3.98 based on a stock price of $174.72, Revenue estimate for 2025 of $62,070M, and Revenue per Share of $43.86. The current ratio is 25% above the 10 year median ratio. This stock price testing suggests that the stock price is relatively expensive.

Results of stock price testing is that the stock price is probably on the expensive side. The dividend yield testing is saying that the stock price is reasonable but above the median. The P/S Ratio testing is saying that the stock price is relatively expensive. If you look at a chart, it is at all time high. A lot of my testing is pointing to a relatively expensive price. I would be cautious about buying this bank at this time.

When I look at analysts’ recommendations, I find Strong Buy (6), Buy (6), Hold (3), and Underperform (1). The consensus would be a Buy. The 12 month stock price consensus is $186.00, with a high of $200.00 and low of $143.00. The consensus stock price of $186.00

Analysts like this stock on Stock Chase but many feel that it might be overpriced currently. Stock Chase gives this stock 5 stars out of 5. Amy Legate-Wolfe on Motley Fool thinks that this is a great buy and hold stock. Chris MacDonald on Motley Fool thinks that the Canadian Market will outperform the US one in 2025. He thinks that this bank is a reliable earner and dividend payer. This bank put out a press release on Newswire about their fourth quarter of 2024.

Simply Wall Street via Yahoo Finance put out a report on this bank and its dividends. Simply Wall Street lists no risks for this bank. It gives it 4 stars out of 5.

Royal Bank of Canada is one of the two largest banks in Canada. It is a diversified financial services company, offering personal and commercial banking, wealth-management services, insurance, corporate banking, and capital markets services. The bank is concentrated in Canada, with additional operations in the US and other countries. Its web site is here Royal Bank of Canada.

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